@howl kill me

@howl Oh no, it doesn't. I just keep a void container running because WSL is junk

@howl @quad Yeah, a fellow void user ! Hyiah !

@howl @Sasha Debian unstable then I hope?

@quad @howl I'm sure you could install runit to replace systemd. That way everyone wins ! 😁

@Sasha @howl Of course you could if you try hard enough. But you would need to write every single runitscript yourself because Debian packages don't contain that.

Same issue Artix has atm. It's Arch without systemd, but they're still lacking a fair share of init scripts

@quad @howl Ooh I didn't know about artix. That might be a little nicer to run than Arch. I'm currently getting rid of Arch, only one box left, but I'm still lacking some confidence with per-user runit sub-instances and jackd.

@Sasha @howl Problem with Artix is that it's very tiny. Heck I'm not even sure if the live images are updated, you need to change to their new mirrors before the install even works because nobody seems to have bothered updating the live images. And like mentioned earlier there's a distinct lack of init scripts. I don't even think there's an init script for lightdm, at least not the last time I checked.

It's promising, but too much of a pain in the ass to run at its current stage imo

@howl @Sasha i cringe when i see people run stable for desktop use. i wouldn't be able to survive

@howl @Sasha install Devuan Ceres bro

@quad @howl @Sasha It's not even a desktop OS according to the devs I've talked at IRC lol, it's pretty much unusable for me due to its servere lack of matureness

@espectalll @Sasha @howl I don't doubt it tbh. They have to filter out all the systemd crap from Debian with a much smaller team.

Devuan Stable is fine though. But frankly I wouldn't trust Ceres with anything. I only run Ascii when I need more recent versions of stuff since it'll probably be frozen in like a year anyways.

@dirb systemctl start systemd-suicided